Focus RS vs Civic Type R comparison

Kinja'd!!! "TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
06/11/2016 at 02:51 • Filed to: None

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Interesting read.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/features/…

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DISCUSSION (5)


Kinja'd!!! Flavien Vidal > TheHondaBro
06/11/2016 at 03:09

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Have not read it yet (will read now) but I would say that the Focus RS is not the best car here... I saw first hand drivers attacking each other on Suzuka at the wheel of those cars and damn did that look fun.

All the Focus RS videos I have seen yet show a car that LOOKS fun to drive from the outside but that is just not that great to drive. Not sure how to describe it, but in a normal car, getting the whole thing sideways means driving OVER the limits, making it fun and challenging. The Focus RS completely changed those limits. What was considered to be over the limit before, is now “a built in feature” of the car. Getting it sideways requires almost no countersteer, no fighting wit hthe car.

It’s impressive to look at from the outside, but something I’d get bored of very quickly myself.

The Civic looked like an absolute monster IRL though, twichy over the limit but VERY fast if you know what you’re doing. It’s what I look for when I buy a car :)

So I think, without having ever driven any of those 2 cars, that the Civic is the best car.

Now, on to reading the article lol


Kinja'd!!! Chasaboo > TheHondaBro
06/11/2016 at 03:28

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Yeah, I’d be so bored with a Focus RS. Buy me one and I'll tell you how it goes.


Kinja'd!!! HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > TheHondaBro
06/11/2016 at 06:45

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I’m am seriously impressed by how ugly that Civic is. Seriously.

Not to mention it looks like it has exactly no cubic feet of space behind the rear seats, you know the reason hatchbacks are so great.


Kinja'd!!! Kanaric > TheHondaBro
06/11/2016 at 11:56

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I would get a Civic R if I could get a serious deal on it. I would otherwise not be able to deny the RS.

The civic is like everything japanese these days, one step short, where in the 90s they were steps ahead. It’s like they used to be trying to impress but have settled into the grind.

Like this. The civic R has FWD? Well the RS had AWD. The civic R had 310hp? Well the RS has 350. The civic handles great? Well the Focus handles better than any EVO.

“The Focus’s advantages are small but noticeable - it allows left foot braking where the Civic does not, and, of course, overspeeding rear tyres are rather more entertaining than overspeeding front ones.”

None of these are “small” advantages. They are serious ones.


Kinja'd!!! Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast > Kanaric
06/11/2016 at 16:02

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Sounds like you want an AWD vehicle, so yeah, if horsepower numbers and number of driven wheels are what you value, than the RS is a no brainier.

In overall driving experience (what I personally value most) I see this comparo very differently. Mostly from comments like this.

“The optional Recaro seats are mounted far too high, perching you up in the cabin and making the angle with which you operate the pedals feel very peculiar”

“The [Focus] steering isn’t quite as direct and the gearbox can’t compete for slickness either...”

On the Focus engine:

“While far from bad, it certainly doesn’t stand out like other elements in the package. It’s torquey and less laggy than the Civic, but lacks the Type R’s vigour at high revs and the induction noise won’t be to all tastes.”

“Over the same stretch of Welsh B-road, there’s no escaping that the Civic - sorry fast Ford fans - is simply the more exciting car.”

On the track;

“It’s the Honda that everyone wants to drive again though, all raving about its precision and agility”

So yeah, if FWD and a 20 hp deficit is “behind,” in this instance, I’m just fine with that.

Numbers aren’t everything is the moral of all this selective quoting, haha